Joan and Brant please accept my sincere condolences. Often you hear of the death of a famous person and simply think "Oh that's too bad." and go on with your daily business. When I heard the news about General Shali's passing, I truly felt the loss. My husband and I (both retired now) reminisced about his time at FT Lewis. He was such an honorable and respectable man and yet not afraid to show his sense of humor. Some officers are given respect due to their rank. I think almost everyone who ever served with General Shali would say he was given the respect first because of the man he was and second because of his rank.